Comments on: Undo Made Easy with Ajax (Part 1.5) http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/ -- aza | ɐzɐ -- Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:21:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: شات كتابي http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-12994 شات كتابي Thu, 20 Jan 2011 16:10:23 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-12994 thnks goooooooooooood min:) thnks
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]]> By: Sex http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-11359 Sex Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:02:39 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-11359 I think the only real solution is a server side solution. It is a complicated problem, but I worry that client-side only tricks take what was previously a well understood end-user metaphor (like copy/paste), and changes the behavior enough that it no longer behaves like expected. This causes confusion around “what is Undo really supposed to do?” I think the only real solution is a server side solution. It is a complicated problem, but I worry that client-side only tricks take what was previously a well understood end-user metaphor (like copy/paste), and changes the behavior enough that it no longer behaves like expected. This causes confusion around “what is Undo really supposed to do?”

]]> By: porno http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-11255 porno Sun, 05 Sep 2010 23:48:40 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-11255 I think the only real solution is a server side solution. It is a complicated problem, but I worry that client-side only tricks take what was previously a well understood end-user metaphor (like copy/paste), and changes the behavior enough that it no longer behaves like expected. This causes confusion around “what is Undo really supposed to do?” I think the only real solution is a server side solution. It is a complicated problem, but I worry that client-side only tricks take what was previously a well understood end-user metaphor (like copy/paste), and changes the behavior enough that it no longer behaves like expected. This causes confusion around “what is Undo really supposed to do?”

]]> By: Zayıflama Lida Fx15 Ve Biber Hapı Zlfvbh http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-10258 Zayıflama Lida Fx15 Ve Biber Hapı Zlfvbh Wed, 21 Jul 2010 22:33:30 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-10258 This is a very good script. can you please put the source code of the first example that “Try out the to-do list with the standard warning dialog box solution.” This is a very good script.

can you please put the source code of the first example that “Try out the to-do list with the standard warning dialog box solution.”

]]> By: Thomas http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-1012 Thomas Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:49:53 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-1012 Not only the article is a very interesting approach, also Craig's, Michael's and Alexander's comments give a very critical and noteworthy view at the drawbacks. I think that the user should be informed that the items are NOT deleted in realtime, just marked as "to be deleted". With that information in mind, users shouldn't get too confused when opening another tab, window or browser and so on (in case of a second tab, even if cookie-synchronized, you can commit the changes in tab 1, and they are deleted for read, but in tab 2, you still are in believe to be able undoing it). Not only the article is a very interesting approach, also Craig’s, Michael’s and Alexander’s comments give a very critical and noteworthy view at the drawbacks.

I think that the user should be informed that the items are NOT deleted in realtime, just marked as “to be deleted”. With that information in mind, users shouldn’t get too confused when opening another tab, window or browser and so on (in case of a second tab, even if cookie-synchronized, you can commit the changes in tab 1, and they are deleted for read, but in tab 2, you still are in believe to be able undoing it).

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]]> By: Fresh: новости мира юзабилити » Blog Archive » Функция отмены при помощи Ajax - это про http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-1005 Fresh: новости мира юзабилити » Blog Archive » Функция отмены при помощи Ajax - это про Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:23:50 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-1005 [...] Аза Раскин опубликовал наконец вторую часть статьи о функции отмены при помощи Ajax. Первую часть можно посмотреть здесь, и часть 1,5 здесь. [...]

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]]> By: jest Staffel http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-1010 jest Staffel Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:19:28 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-1010 This is a very good script. can you please put the source code of the first example that “Try out the to-do list with the standard warning dialog box solution.” i have a example on my site: http://scripts.ajaxflakes.com/category/accordion/ This is a very good script.

can you please put the source code of the first example that “Try out the to-do list with the standard warning dialog box solution.”

i have a example on my site:

http://scripts.ajaxflakes.com/category/accordion/

]]> By: Andrew Ingram http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-1009 Andrew Ingram Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:34:17 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-1009 A good set of articles, I've become interested in exploring undo functionality since reading your article on ALA so it's nice to find more information here. I've also been exploring using javascript to add undo functionality, but in my case I took the simple case of undoing the reset functionality of a form, you can see my results <a href="http://www.andrewingram.net/articles/undo_form_reset_script_for_kids_who_cant_reset_good/" title="Reset Undo Article" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Thanks a lot for your helpful articles. A good set of articles, I’ve become interested in exploring undo functionality since reading your article on ALA so it’s nice to find more information here.

I’ve also been exploring using javascript to add undo functionality, but in my case I took the simple case of undoing the reset functionality of a form, you can see my results here.

Thanks a lot for your helpful articles.

]]> By: Alexander Botero-Lowry http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/comment-page-1/#comment-1008 Alexander Botero-Lowry Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:19:36 +0000 http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/09/21/undo-made-easy-with-ajax-part-15/#comment-1008 Firstly, the source link seems to be broken. I'm actually rather intrigued by this implementation. I agree that there are some real advantages to not having to write server-side code, conversely I think that at some point one's tricks to avoid server-side work get so involved that one ends up doing more work than just adding a deleted bit, and flipping it via the web API. In general though, I think the point that you make, that undo is an important enough feature for us to just do it, is really important. I think that the direction we should go in is the command pattern, but it's a lot easier for us to grab this ``low hanging fruit'' and run with it. As for between-client syncing, I was going to implement that in my example, but i just got kind of bored. It's usually done with either Comet or polling. Comet being better to my eyes, but for some examples of http, it can be really problematic. A while back I wrote an xmms2 client for the browser that was totally live (time, playlist, etc updated live), and you see it with gmail where you get new messages as they arrive. Firstly, the source link seems to be broken.

I’m actually rather intrigued by this implementation. I agree that there are some real advantages to not having to write server-side code, conversely I think that at some point one’s tricks to avoid server-side work get so involved that one ends up doing more work than just adding a deleted bit, and flipping it via the web API. In general though, I think the point that you make, that undo is an important enough feature for us to just do it, is really important. I think that the direction we should go in is the command pattern, but it’s a lot easier for us to grab this “low hanging fruit” and run with it.

As for between-client syncing, I was going to implement that in my example, but i just got kind of bored. It’s usually done with either Comet or polling. Comet being better to my eyes, but for some examples of http, it can be really problematic. A while back I wrote an xmms2 client for the browser that was totally live (time, playlist, etc updated live), and you see it with gmail where you get new messages as they arrive.

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