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	<title>Comments on: Why Praise is like a Wheel In Gravel</title>
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	<description>-- aza &#124; ɐzɐ --</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: افلام سكس عربي</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-6514</link>
		<dc:creator>افلام سكس عربي</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>افلام سكس عربي قسم متخصص من موقع عرب نار لعرض الافلام العربية</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>افلام سكس عربي قسم متخصص من موقع عرب نار لعرض الافلام العربية</p>
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		<title>By: Confused</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4822</link>
		<dc:creator>Confused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 15:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't quite get the significance of the difference between positive and negative reinforcement. Both encourage the behavior and would tend to direct whoever you are reinforcing with what behavior is desired.
Is it possible that you are confusing negative reinforcement with punishment? Note that negative reinforcement and punishment have opposite effects. Negative reinforcement encourages a behavior (by removing something undesirable) while punishment discourages the behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite get the significance of the difference between positive and negative reinforcement. Both encourage the behavior and would tend to direct whoever you are reinforcing with what behavior is desired.<br />
Is it possible that you are confusing negative reinforcement with punishment? Note that negative reinforcement and punishment have opposite effects. Negative reinforcement encourages a behavior (by removing something undesirable) while punishment discourages the behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4724</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, tell me more about this "right way" ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, tell me more about this &#8220;right way&#8221; &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Zach</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4642</link>
		<dc:creator>Zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but it's a lot funnier.
www.design-police.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but it&#8217;s a lot funnier.<br />
<a href="http://www.design-police.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.design-police.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4357</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting, Aza.

Although I agree with you wholeheartedly...

Consider a situation, or approach, that employs both negative and positive enforcement concurrently. There's a balance there that allows for the positive ('corrective path', as you describe) and the negative, a 'learn from your mistakes' approach. It's true that through unguided discovery we often  learn things we may not have encountered in a more structured, or guided, learning environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting, Aza.</p>
<p>Although I agree with you wholeheartedly&#8230;</p>
<p>Consider a situation, or approach, that employs both negative and positive enforcement concurrently. There&#8217;s a balance there that allows for the positive (&#8217;corrective path&#8217;, as you describe) and the negative, a &#8216;learn from your mistakes&#8217; approach. It&#8217;s true that through unguided discovery we often  learn things we may not have encountered in a more structured, or guided, learning environment.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Mao</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4300</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Mao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 16:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a great piece of lesson for leadership ...i love the lines above , must share with my friends</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a great piece of lesson for leadership &#8230;i love the lines above , must share with my friends</p>
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		<title>By: johnjbarton</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>johnjbarton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 06:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the cart is easier to pull if you are taller than the cart so that some of your force is pulling the cart up and over the gravel, rather than using some of your force to push the cart down and into the gravel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the cart is easier to pull if you are taller than the cart so that some of your force is pulling the cart up and over the gravel, rather than using some of your force to push the cart down and into the gravel.</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Cordoba</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4276</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Cordoba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Krishnamurti says "Where there is choice there is not freedom". Your analogy resembles me of his words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krishnamurti says &#8220;Where there is choice there is not freedom&#8221;. Your analogy resembles me of his words.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan Perez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan Perez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmh not quite convinced ( perhaps I didn't understand well :P  )  

I heard that we humans learn more from bad things that from good things. For that's the way we make it to survive. 

Take the following example. 

Say you're a construction worker in charge of security, you might have been doing some security job for years. Everybody recognizes you and praise you.  Perhaps you're the "worker of the year for 10 yrs in a row" and you've saved hundreds of lives ( with proper recognition each time )  


But, one day, somebody dies because you make a single mistake in security, a single in your whole career. It was an accident, nones' fault. You overcome it and have a good productive life after that. 


I been told, that single mistake teaches you more, than all the previous success.  Because we humans learn more from that. We learn to scape from wild animals in the forest more only after someone in the tribe died at the tigers paws.

I don't know much more about the subject, but I certainly remember more the day when I burn my house carpet at 6 yrs old, than any other day of that same year.  :) :) :) 


Was this the topic? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmh not quite convinced ( perhaps I didn&#8217;t understand well :P  )  </p>
<p>I heard that we humans learn more from bad things that from good things. For that&#8217;s the way we make it to survive. </p>
<p>Take the following example. </p>
<p>Say you&#8217;re a construction worker in charge of security, you might have been doing some security job for years. Everybody recognizes you and praise you.  Perhaps you&#8217;re the &#8220;worker of the year for 10 yrs in a row&#8221; and you&#8217;ve saved hundreds of lives ( with proper recognition each time )  </p>
<p>But, one day, somebody dies because you make a single mistake in security, a single in your whole career. It was an accident, nones&#8217; fault. You overcome it and have a good productive life after that. </p>
<p>I been told, that single mistake teaches you more, than all the previous success.  Because we humans learn more from that. We learn to scape from wild animals in the forest more only after someone in the tribe died at the tigers paws.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know much more about the subject, but I certainly remember more the day when I burn my house carpet at 6 yrs old, than any other day of that same year.  :) :) :) </p>
<p>Was this the topic? :P</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Battle</title>
		<link>http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/why-praise-is-like-a-wheel-in-gravel/#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Battle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to differ, strongly.  The metaphor is not applicable, although it has a "feel good" message, a bit like chicken soup for the soul.

In the case of the shopping cart, in either pulling or pushing you attempting to achieve the same thing.  You can pick one or the other (or some other more esoteric means of motivating the cart simply for the sake of being an internet smarty-pants).

In most situations where you might consider positive or negative feedback, only one or the other applies.  Say your dog retrieves the newspaper.  Any rational person would consider giving positive feedback, but not negative feedback.

"Well, you might attempt to train him by giving him negative feedback for not bringing it back."  True, but that is a different situation in a different moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to differ, strongly.  The metaphor is not applicable, although it has a &#8220;feel good&#8221; message, a bit like chicken soup for the soul.</p>
<p>In the case of the shopping cart, in either pulling or pushing you attempting to achieve the same thing.  You can pick one or the other (or some other more esoteric means of motivating the cart simply for the sake of being an internet smarty-pants).</p>
<p>In most situations where you might consider positive or negative feedback, only one or the other applies.  Say your dog retrieves the newspaper.  Any rational person would consider giving positive feedback, but not negative feedback.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, you might attempt to train him by giving him negative feedback for not bringing it back.&#8221;  True, but that is a different situation in a different moment.</p>
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